Fox News anchors Brett Baier and Martha MacCallum offered up their analysis of how they thought the first Republican primary debate they moderated turned out, especially without the party’s leading candidate, former President Donald Trump, on stage.

The two spoke out on Politico Playbook’s Deep Dive podcast last week after the Wednesday debate to offer up their thoughts about how they thought things went, according to Mediaite.

Baier recalled the moment when he and MacCallum had to turn around and tell the audience to stop mercilessly booing the candidates, especially former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie because there was only so much time allotted for the event.

“When they were booing and [former New Jersey Gov.] Chris Christie couldn’t talk, that’s the time that we both turned around to the audience. And at that point, I did feel like the dad driving the station wagon going, ‘You guys keep yelling, I’m going to turn this car around,’” Baier quipped.

Baier also noted that former Vice President Mike Pence was unusually “aggressive.”

“I don’t know whether he had a lot of coffee or what his deal was, but he showed up ready to interrupt,” the longtime anchor noted.

MacCallum offered some insight into why she believes Pence behaved that way.

“He, I think, may have been thinking: ‘I’m the former vice president. I have a different status on this stage, and I am going to take my time, and I’m going to show my gravitas, and I’m going to make sure that people hear what I have to say here tonight.’ … You could definitely feel him asserting himself — that he was sort of, ‘I’m on a different level here than the rest of you on the stage,’” she told the podcast.

The duo also discussed the point in the debate where they asked the candidates on stage if they would support Trump should he be convicted of crimes and still become the party’s nominee (most did — Christie and former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson would not).


“[W]hen you look back at it — and I actually just rewatched it a moment ago — it’s interesting because the right-hand side of the room, their hands went up pretty quickly. And [Florida Gov.] Ron DeSantis sort of glanced over at them and then raised his hand,” MacCallum said.

“I agree with Martha. It was sort of like the wave in a stadium,” Baier said. “I think that was my moment, too. … [DeSantis] clearly didn’t want to talk about the former president, and, to that point, started turning it and, you know, ripping on us for talking about the former president.”

Baier then recalled the moment when he reminded DeSantis that Trump was leading him by 30 to 40 points in most polls.

“I kind of had that moment, and wasn’t thinking I was smacking him; I was just telling him: ‘This is a legitimate line of questioning. This is a big part of this election,’” Baier said.

A top-rated syndicated radio host based in Boston said over the weekend that he thinks Trump has the 2024 GOP presidential nomination sewed up “at this point.”

Howie Carr, in an interview with Breitbart News’s Washington Bureau Chief Matthew Boyle on SiriusXM, asked Carr about Trump’s chances to win the nom despite his four indictments, the latest of which came in Fulton County, Ga., last week, resulting in an epic mugshot that immediately went viral and has garnered the former president new support in the black community.

The host of “The Howie Carr Show” on WRKO said, “I don’t think there’s any way Trump could be stopped at this point. I mean, especially with as many people as there are in the field, I mean, it’s just going to split it up.”

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